Ramblings' Journal

Looks like Hensley is already dead when they decapitated him, unlike Armstrong -- he is completely motionless and no one is holding him down as they did with Berg and Armstrong. The screams heard were probably added in.

That guy was a money-grubber after the oil...why else would he be in Iraq? Don't give me that humanitarian excuse crap. We real Americans don't care about that stuff anymore. We need to pull out and admit defeat.

I say us, the fight has been lost for the terriosts and they know the time has come. Look at the acts in attacking civilians its a lost cause for them and they know it. Hold firm!

It is a stark reminder of how Bush lied to the American people to engage in an illegal war based on lies and deception and his abysmal failure to do anything about "Islamic fundamental terrorism."

Mike,
Never had you pegged for a freeper! Well said.

Rusty

PS-what is your e-mail address? Please send it to me so I have it.

I cannot believe the comment about Hinsley being a money grubber. That shows about as much ignorance as the islamic kiddnappers followed. Sure Hinsley should not have been in Iraq, but to say it was only over money and to show apsolutely no compassion for this man? You seriously need to reevaluate the situation and take another look at those videos and i would hope your opinions change. This has absolutely nothing to do with American defeat, stop throwing in tangent information to prove your liberal viewpoints, they are out of place with this situation!

I say anyone from coalition forces or civilians should have a microchip tracing device embedded in their skin in a unknowon spot...Then pay a surprise visit to these thugs who won't even show their faces. Let them face the forces.
Also I have not heard a peep from any Islamic people in the U.S. sounding off and condemming this barbaric action, to me this is also a tradgedy. Has anyone heard of condemnation from a U.S. muslim?

i want to know why are these people going over there to rebuild iraq? the hell with iraq...after i saw the first person get beheaded that would have been enough to keep me away...those men should have been at home with their families and never went there...i know one thing if i had made a choice to go there i would have had me a gun by my side 24/7 and when they came to kidnap me they would have got sprayed with some bullets...

i feel sorry for the families who will never forget the way their loved ones had to die..in the hands of those evil people and put on display for all the world to see...it is so sad..and poor ken bigley...he knows that he will not make it...i just hope that they had time to make peace and are in a better place

What these troglodites don't seem to understand is that no matter what the westerners were doing there these acts of viscious indignity do not further their cause. They don't understand America. They don't understand that it is not in our nature to back down from ignorance, hatred, and brutality inflicted upon America and her allies people. If they keep this up they may finally get what a lot of Americans want: a true occupation to put these dogs down and Martial to follow indefinitely.

In my opinion, the only logical reason these beheadings continue is that the rogue killers are attempting to influence the American presidential elections. Maybe they will to some extent, except I think that their intentions may backfire on them and cause George Bush to be re-elected to another 4 year term -- then the gloves will come off after the election and lots of these killers and their families will perish. It is only a matter of sweet time.

Look at the "executioners." They hide behind hoods and stand there in front of a meaningless 'flag' which they hope shows the world their legitimacy through unity. Won't some kind soul explain to them that ill-conceived random violence doesn't work? Just ask the PLO.

How myopic they must be not to see that all they are is a weak, small group of bandidos that are just one of hundreds of ridiculous radical groups that will never control anything. Furthermore, it also no doubt that these clowns have not figured out that for every one of these beheadings the Americans answer indirectly with 500 pound bombs that level a city block. What we Americans lack in a startling 'made-for-the-web,' demeaning, sadist video, we up make for quietly in mass destruction of terrorists and their entire families.

And finally, imagine the emptiness of heart and soul one must feel to be able to kill a fellow human being like this. Is there actually a way one can be further from God?

Your demonizing of the Iraqi people are the ignorant ramblings of someone not thinking straight. Say the Chinese decided to bomb Atlanta, and brutally do so, including dropping 1,000 tons of depleted uranium munitions on your beautiful Georgian landscape. Then they bring over 100,000 men with weapons and continue to kill your women and children. Don't you think there'd be a few pretty upset Atlanteans? You bet there would. Rumsfeld & Bush have put our men & women in a F**ed up predicament and all because the continued reliance upon dollar-based oil economy is more important than getting real with global markets. Advice to all Americans who really want to understand why we're in Iraq should start to aquaint themselves with PEAK OIL - the world is currently peaking with global oil extraction. The NeoCon gameplan is failing and badly. We need to replace the manager who has deceived us and led our nation on the wrong track. Get back to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Bombing the Iraqi people is NOT the way to them to accept our control of their resources. Duh! Get real folks, we need to leave the hornets nest we stirred up in the first place, trying to steal THEIR land & resources. Just try to imagine what it would be like in their shoes. Intelligence comes from being able to view a situation from many, many angles and viewpoints.

Kill all these souls from the earth.

John (or should I say Masoud),

First of all, in my "ramblings" I didn't demonize the entire population of Iraqi's. In fact I didn't even mention Iraqi's. The reality is that these anonymous killers recruited into Iraq from all over the world (even the U.S. sometimes) are not helping the plight of true Iraqis who probably want to rebuild their country and get on with life. Do I feel bad for the situation and conditions Iraqi people are living in now? Yes I do, but it does not in any way make me feel that these brutal videotaped killings are somehow justified. Is that what you're trying to convey? Killing and torturing the innocent using renegade justice is never something that can be acceptable in a moral society. My extreme point regarding American deadly response

Everyone knows that America is not going to just throw in the towel and walk away for many reasons. Oil may in fact be one of those reasons and I don't think anyone is going to deny that. The problem is that oil is not the only reason we will not leave. I'm sure someone has actually enumerated all the reasons but here are just a few.
* Regional stability which concerns American and global interests
* Human Rights
* Rebuilding
* Democratization

Oil? Duh? In response I think many educated people have either perused or actually read Hubbert's peak already. Being from Texas I'm definitely aware of the "peak."
If you're not familiar with the decades old study that has been uncannily on the mark concerning global supplies of oil, here's a synopsis (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0691090866/102-5049244-2521702). By the way, thanks for your view on intelligence...it really puts into perspective the killing of innocent people by cutting off their heads.

Hey Mike!!! OIL is the only reason america is there..... you dont excuse our greed for invading a country by creating dictators that dont have WMD.... now its a fact and we knew it from the start.... these countries informed the world and the u.s. that the towers were going to be attacked for a year.... get off your dead ass and do some real research.... Israel posted in ther papers a month before the attack that the airlines would have terrorist take some planes and hit the towers... we did nothing... and a week before the hit, Israel pulled out their business in the towers with one week to go... and then they were hit.... so can you think a bit!!!??? And I was born on 9-11.. go figure.... so if you really think you have a brain then go to copvia.com and do some serious research with an open mind.... and get the book The Grand Chessboard... then maybe you will wake up.... if the world knew the last fifty or so years of the U.S. political agenda, they would not have a thing to do with us........ case closed.... I have a nearly two hour video on bush..... his father... and his grandfather that fueled hitler with tons of ammunition... its just a fact... geo-political control... called the book the Grand Chessboard..... what they did is cruel... but at the same time for every one soldier killed 12-15 innocent civilians in this country is killed...... so what is the bigger evil......??

it is as much the whole of islam as acre and the 2nd burning of alexandria was all of christianity.

the fault for the hostage situation lies squarely with Bush, Blair, Howard, Aznar etc. we attacked that country with no justification, killed 10000s of civilians and have imposed a government on them . if elections happen in january and Al sadr or someone else like him is elected will the US accept the result. Am looking out of the window and not seeing any rashers of bacon flying by.

after posting this i am emailing the foreign office and 10 downing street to demand the release of the 2 iraqi women in exchange for bigley.

very sorry for the 2 americans murdered, it is cowardly and cruel and i hyope they come across the SAS or the Paras very shortly!!!!

www.bbc.co.uk

The brother of British hostage Kenneth Bigley says the US has "sabotaged" his brother's release by refusing to free a detained woman scientist in Iraq.
Paul Bigley told the BBC there had been "a shadow of light" when Iraqi ministers said the woman would go free.
But the US ruled out freeing the woman - one of two held in Iraq - saying it would not give in to the kidnappers.

It is so sad to see the responses on this message board. I agree that every country has had their share of political misleadings and quite frankly if we knew everything that happens "backstage" of every government we would be horrified. It is sad to see how selfish we americans can be. Its all about our safety and our problems. Making sure we can have ur cup of steaming Starbucks in the morning and sit in front of our Direct TV at night. There is a world out there that needs help and as a super power in this era it is our responsibility to help. Is there a political agenda? Always...But good can still be done.

Could this war be about oil? Yes. But on top of that there is the liberation of a once supressed country. The majority of Iraqs people are glad Saddam is gone but we see the minority of iraqis that disapprove on the liberal media platform. Are all liberals bad? No. There are the few that are so focused on Bush bashing that they cannot see the real scenario. It reminds me of a childs game. What did we expect that the war would happen and what do you know a week later everything is peachy keen and perfect? No. There is always a transition period in any movement and there will always be lives lost in a cause. Which is saddening but true. Do we expect our intelligence to be perfect...don't be foolish. If we ran after every single threat we recieve on a daily basis we would have no time to follow the real ones and prepare the country. 9/11 is a sad reality and there is fault on all sides due the human condition of imperfection.

Bottom line good Americans are giving their lives out there for you, me, and the world. Americans who have left their families so that we can be safer in the long run. For evey soldier who does not want to be there i can give you 3 who do. What are you doing...If you are so upset with America then leave...Live under a dictatorship where they choose what you eat, how you dress, what you can say, or how you vote. Then i think you will begin to understand what all those countless lives that were lost in the last century were for. Like it or not the very reason you can even have this freedom to speak your mind is because of battles that have been fought and opposed in the past. Would you have given your life to save the Jews in the holocaust or for the thousands of already murdered Iraqis found in mass graves under Saddams rule? Stop looking at the short term... There is a bigger picture. It can seem that all that we do is a lose lose situation...if we don't do anything the world becomes angry that we sit on our butt and if we do something the world gets angry that we butted in. Its choosing the greater good...

It is time for the American military to implement retaliation. This is not a new course of action. Custer hung several of Mosbey’s men during the Civil War for being partisan rangers. Moseby retaliated by hanging a similar number of Custer’s men. This ended the practice. The thought of retaliation also kept Hitler from murdering captured Americans during WWII. I hope we start to hang these Islamic animals soon, after feeding them bacon. Bury them in pig fat and publicly post their burial spots so we can piss on their graves. Death to Islam. Death to Arabs. Kill them all (except their young women).

Mis condolencias para las familias, y reitero que no deberian mostrar estos videos ya que son muy violentos y daninos para nuestros sentimientos.

No a la guerra, y que que ojala llegue la paz en todo el mundo.

this is a terrible thing to see, he chose to be there, had every opportunity to leave, and didn't. Infact they all had the chance, so be it if the rest of the Americans do not leave, that is what will happen to them. To think money is worth their lives?

what I have just seen in these vidios makes me sick, we must destroy these sick bastards now. I will not ask what or how we did it, just do it. And what ever I can do at home to protect my loved ones I will do and I will not look back. May those people go to hell and the sooner the better.

The imidiet withdrawl of all US and coalition forces necessary, in order to place into effect the events that would follow. After the last US, and coalition troops have left the current theatres of conflict; the following countries comprising Saudi arbia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and afghanistan; bombers would be arriving, having left from multiple locations from the US. These bombers comprising B1b Lancer class special package carrier(agm nuclear payload, and B series including the 52 and b2 class carring special package mk2 nuclear payload munition. Assuring the neutralizing of the most current and future threats. Once over listed targets would deploy special packages(special, term used within US strategic headquarters reffering to nuclear payloads). All prior listed countries would be categorized as uninhabitable until half-life of uranium-235
had diminished

it is believed that the US is ripe for a 'revolution'. An internal struggle exist between two factions, conservative and liberal. The question is, which side would win( no need to answer, I already know). could the liberal side defeat the conservative side in an armed conflict? intersting question. Try to see if you could come up with the correct answer. I promiss its not to difficult.

Have you studied the American Civil War? We have peaceful means of changing things in this country. It doesn't happen as quickly as a beheading, but it does protect our civilization and humanity.

When I was 9 I read the Quran in 3 days by inventing a method of speed reading to see what it says about Jesus and Mary. God showed me where the angel dictating it to Mohammed was lying about them in the 3rd,4th,5th,19th suras (chapters). The Bible is the masterpiece of the Holy Spirit. The Quran is the masterpiece of the Evil Spirit. Whereas most Muslims are generally good like Catholics and everybody else I think Islamic killers in the name of Allah and oppressive imposers of Islam are unknowingly followers of the spirit of the AntiChrist who may be the author of the Quran.

It was very sad to see this man get executed. It was horrible in fact. Did he deserve it? Yes, if you ask me.. He was An enemy to begin with. 1) He was an American 2) He was helping the enemy or Occupation forces that were Occupying Iraq and killing Iraqis. This was sad but isn't it also sad when the U.S. drops bombs on buildings and innocents die as their body parts fly every where?

For all of those who think that Americans should not be there let me ask the question, Is there anywhere on this planet that we as Americans have no right to be. We are free and not subjects of anyone, we have no king except God and no rulers higher than ourselves, even our president is considered a servant to the people. If the Islamic terrorist continue down this road they are on then it only a matter of time before their land is just a dry totally barren and lifeless sea of glass.
Quoted from II Peter 3:10-12
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?"
Let's see if the terorist can avoid the fate of Egypt who killed followers of God, and the Romans who killed the followers of God, and the Spanish who killed the followers of God, and the Russians Who killed the followers of God. Each of these groups were at one time great nations and now look at them. All of them are now just a shadow of their former glory and America had nothing to do with their downfall. God is on our side and will fight for us. We need do nothing but pull out and have no contact with them. Let them eat their oil as we can get along without them and their oil.

When i see this tape, i just want to kill all arabs!!!!!

This is one result of the U.S. creating Israel, giving them nuclear weapons, and other military hardware. Not that America is the only large country manipulating smaller countries. Pakistan got nuclear weapons from China, and Cuba got missiles from Russia. When will we ever learn world peace is like street smarts. If we want world peace we need to keep to ourselves as much as possible.

Are you people for real? First, God is not on "our" side or "their" side. Either we are on his side or we're not. You don't sound any different from the terrorists when you say stuff like that. Second, it is complete idiocy to think that "they" will just leave "us" alone if we board ourselves up with in our borders and never step foot into the rest of the world. God made this planet for all of humanity and we are all free to go where ever we chose. If you got a problem with that tough. You got a problem with the decisions the U.S. makes fine. You step to us in a correct manor and we can talk about it. You start carrying on with the foolishness we've seen and you get stomped.

It is very sad to see stuff like this, especially to think of that persons family. But I know that all our soldiers are out there fighting for our freedom, If they do'nt who will? We are not going to sit here and wait for another attack like September 11, I think Bush is a good President so leave him alone!!!! What would you do if you were incharge? Talk things through? Don't be ridiculious. I say they find a way to get our sodiers back and finish up with all those terrorist.

God has forgoten these uncivilized animals, there's no hope for them in the afterlife, you should all leave him out of this insanity!! As for those that are into blaming individuals that are in Iraq for rebuilding, whatever the reason, humanitarian or oil infastructure, they don't deserve to have their heads cut off, especially on the internet in-front of the whole world to witness. The idiot that claimed Hensley was a money-grubber, get real stupid...We all utilize petrolium based products from Iraq, no matter who you are and if you like it or not!! The man was doing his job! Probably something you know nothing about. Look the bottom line is we have to continue what we are doing in-order that we continue as a nation. If we don't... guess what happens. Thugs like the ones in Iraq smell the weakness, we won't just be dealing with Islamic nut cases, but with other terrorist organizations around the world that are just itching to take the US down, and there are many. look em' up on the State Department's top terrorist list, it's a eye opener. We must support OUR country and it's president, whether you like him or not, pulling out of Iraq would have consequences that could have a ripple effect, maybe in your own backyard. I know all the bleeding heart liberals can't understand that. But if we take your advice maybe we'll all get to watch someone you love sitting in-front of the cloaked bad guys with a big knife!!

LOVE & PROTECT YOUR COUNTRY
RN

How can people be so against thier own creation!! get with it Americans!! your government are SOLEY responsible for all the executions. I mean Back in the cold war, your country trained them to be the way they are. If it wasn't over the cold war against russia, it's because U.S. and our (Austrailian) Government are greedy for oil which wont be around for much longer anyway. They just want to get their quick money fix while their still in and then, when they aren't in anymore... Well let the next guy handle it. My opinion is i hate John Howard and i hate America. Both only think of themselves and their pockets. your supposed "enemies" country is dessert now because their farming and economy went on hold in order to help the yanks defeat russia those many years ago. why do you think they are retalliating and not caring a word for negotiation when the cold war was over U.S. basically told them to get f****d. "we don't need you any more and now you have no more funds". Jack didn't deserve that and it should have been John or George in that position. hell put me there, i'm sick of bein' pi**ed about the greedy world. p.s. it wasn't the worst execution i've seen anyway. No disrespect to the families but at least he wasn't fried in a chair and we all die eventually. Like how America has the highest death count from cival war for longer than I have been existant :) i vote them

My opinion is wake up America. Let them have thier own oil you greedy c**ts. I understand America want to be the same way that Rome use to be but times have changed, and things are not like that anymore. instead of worrying about other countries, look at your own. More civilians in America carry guns and kill people than any war thats documented in the history. So why try to rebuild a country when you cant even maintain your own.Besides This war is caused due to greediness of oil and betrayal of the true American citizens that work hard for a living in there own homland. All ive seen through the years is greediness on Americans behalf every war that America have been in they are there not because of the civilians but bacause of profit which would be in an advantage towards America. And how can you divide them and us when it is all the same thing? I dont blame them for doing what they are doing. In my opinion I would do the same thing if I was in a third world country and got offord money for my assistance then recieved cia training in weapons and tactics (and weapons of mass destruction). then all of a sudden nothing and then my country taken off me along with my lifestyle. So now all iraq's children know is war and death. no education no nothing. The things we take for granted and recieve on a day to day basis. So i say yes to them ps you brought it on yourself (U.S government)

ive been reading up on alot of things and i have to say why is it that an american soldier is complaing about not fighting since hes been there cose all his job is is standing out the front of an oil factory looking after texas miners but hang on a minute where did the texas people come from and why is the company own half by bush and heres another thing look at the prices of fuel and oil .Terriost act my arse more like terriost are the scape goats. i say yes to them

I SAY THE TERM ARABS and or ARAB TERRORISTS NEED TO BECOME USED TO HEARING
"GLOBALIZATION" the world through telecomunications especially the internet ,
is now a very tiny place .
Either we learn to live together in peace and understanding , or we continue to kill ourselves .
I believe although this will probly take a hundred more years or so but , once the last vestiges of 3rd worldism are done away with ( i dont mean killing 3rd world nations ) but bringing these nations into the 21st century is the only way to gradually bring them out of there ignorance . At the present moment they are liken to a "cave man" seeing fire for the first time , so scared in not understanding they strike down the bringer of said fire but , once they've had time to digest , and are helped along but education and by bringing up there standards of living then they being human i hope would have to understand that they can still live there lives , practice their religion without being threatened . they just think were coming in to ruin things they dont have the forsite , not realizing the world is steadily coming together as a whole .Again
Education is the key i think nothing more can be said .thanks for reading this.

My husband went to Iraq in April 2003 for a year. He is an Infantryman, He fought and his Unit faught plenty of battles there. He just saw this video and I qoute him. "AND THAT IS WHY I WANT TO GO BACK TO IRAQ!!" Our prayers go out to all.

The Lozano Family

So the bastards have finally killed poor Ken Bigley.....kept him hoping for 3 long weeks..then cruelly slayed him.

I am a reasonable...intelligent man...not prone to violence or hatred of anty kind....but let me tell you....I believe in an eye for an eye....a "head for a head"...I seriously hope that a British terrorist faction is formed....and they will do the same to an "innocent" Iraqui over here in the uk...lets see how they handle it.

Violence is all these people understand..so give it to them....I was sickened watching Bigleys relatives "creep and crawl" to the kidnappers..asking them to be "merciful"....trying to appeal to their better nature...I suppose I would do the same...but now he has been brutally killed...I would make bloody sure I said what I really wanted too. I would incite the "darker" elements over here in the uk to do the same..I would "DEMAND" revenge.

I am seething over this....as are doubtless thousands of other "mild-mannered" Brits...funny thing is...it all has the opposite effect of what the terrorists want..it simply "mobilises" the average man in the street to start nurturing a "seething" rage inside...smash those mutha**ckers to pieces....puyll off their Islamic heads, and shit down their necks!!

FUCK MOHAMMED HIS MOTHER HIS COUSIN HIS AUNT AND OF COURSE THOSE COWARDS WHO CALL THEMSELVES FREEDOM FIGHTERS , MORE LIKE PUNKS AND THUGS, IN THE END AMERICA WILL DESTROY YOU PIGS AND IN THE END YOU THUGS WILL DIE THE SAME WAY, SHOW YOUR FACES LIKE REAL MEN , OR EVEN BETTER I GIVE YOU MY ADDRESS AND YOU COME HERE SO I CAN PUT A REAL AMERICAN GOOD ASS WHIPPING ON YOU LITTLE COWARDS, WE ARE GONNA GET YOU ALL , NO DOUBT AND VERY SOON...........WE AINT AFRAID, ALLAH MY ASS! THATS RIGHT I SAID IT , WANT MY ADDRESS , FUCK MOHAMMED AND ISLAM.........

If my ODA-Team could find these scum-bags. We would make them wish that they were never born.

dwd

Nobody is right,we are all stuck in the same situation.What if that was us on our knees and someone placing a dull knife to our throats? Nobody is perfect but don't blame countries blame the people who control them.The world has
always known cruelity just never had the internet
to show us. I know it is sad and unmortal how they were beheaded and we should of gave them their women. The world is angry and right now only knows ugliness I fear for the future of all man kind and all the world. But we must fight for all that is still good.

i am a muslim, what occured in the video, was wrong, and the way he was killed was brutal however, Americans have no bussiness in IRAQ!!! They should get out go home, live their lives in AMERICA!!!!!

The people of Iraq want to govern their own country they have been doing so for all their lives, why do they need America to govern their country???

When a nation is oppressed, there will be those rebelling against the Oppressors!!!!

America move out of Iraq!!!

I think we should hunt down the terrorist that are left in this country and give public a beheading of them. fuck the commi basterds kill them all

this is to justice maybe you should take your ass over ther and stay instead of america what do you say?????????????????????????

I aggree with jonothan mitchell in every aspect I'm with you brother

Time to drop another FAT BOY!!!!!!!

ddff

I'm sick and tired of those of you who think that holding firm is going to eliminate these "terrorists", wherever they're really from. The US shouldn't be there and proof of that is the fact that 9-11 has been exposed, although NOT by mainstream media, as a complete sham. So everything after that day is also a sham and over a billion Muslims, hundreds of thousands of Europeans as well as several million Americans all know it. Americans, we've got major housecleaning to do.

please please please !!!
god stop that
My heart goes out...

very tragic and very evil...people like this need to be killed too by beheading them slowly
as they feel the pain in thier neck feeling that thier neck is gonna be off!